No Condemnation And Eternal Security

Does No Condemnation in Rom 8:1 Prove Eternal Security?

Some folks teach that a real Christian won’t ever be condemned based on Rom 8:1 which reads:

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

However, the no condemnation mentioned in Rom 8:1 refers only to those who are IN Christ Jesus! This can only be the case if we continue in the faith, since it is definitely possible not to remain in the Son after salvation (Jn 15:6; 1 Jn 2:24; 2 Jn 9). The KJV renders the no condemnation in Rom 8:1 as conditional for only the ones who “walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit”:

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

The same God-inspired writer of Scripture who gave us Rom 8:1 also gave us 1 Tim 3:6.

He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 

There Paul spoke of possible condemnation for a new convert who would be elevated to the spiritual position of overseer and fall through pride into the same condemnation as the devil, that is, the lake of fire (Rev 20:10; Mt 25:41). Clearly, Paul did not believe in an unconditional eternal security for those truly saved.

Copyright Dan Corner.

Conditional Forgiveness | Unforgiveness | Loss of Salvation

The Unforgiving In Heart

The unforgiving in heart will nullify their own forgiveness, according to the ultimate authority—the Lord Jesus (Mt. 18:21-35)! Furthermore, the Father forgiving us of our sins is conditional upon us forgiving others who have sinned against us. Jesus taught:

For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins (Mt. 6:14,15).

This can only be referring to the saved, for the unsaved have the devil as their spiritual father (Jn. 8:44), and he can’t forgive our sins!

Also, Jesus elaborated on this important subject of forgiving others at another time when Peter asked him about the number of times he should forgive his brother who sins against him (Mt. 18:21-35). [See the chapter addressing this teaching entitled, The Importance of Forgiving in our 801 page volume, The Believer’s Conditional Security.]

Scripture elsewhere reiterates the dangers of hatred and bitterness. Gal. 5:15 and Heb. 12:15, respectively, read:

If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

See to it that no one misses the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many.

Unforgiveness, hatred and bitterness seem to be implied here, as are other works of the sinful nature.

Copyright, Dan Corner.

Did Samson Commit Suicide?

Contrary to popular opinion, Samson did not commit suicide. Samson prayed that God would let him die with the Philistines, but he left the matter completely in God’s hands. Judges 16:28-30 read:

Then Samson prayed to the LORD, “O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.” Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.

Unlike Samson, suicide victims take the termination of their own physical lives into their own hands. God did honor Samson’s prayer, but God didn’t honor Jonah’s similar prayer (Jonah 4:3) or Elijah’s prayer (1 Ki. 19:4)!

In addition, Psa. 66:18 states:

If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened.

This means at the very end of Samson’s life, he apparently was forgiven. Otherwise, God would not have heard his prayer.

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How Do We Get Forgiven For Sins After Salvation Conversion?

The following is an email received by Evangelical Outreach regarding how a person gets sins forgiven after conversion. Below the letter please read the response.

Thank you for the teaching on the Eucharist. I have another question. I never believed in “once saved, always saved.” Since Protestants don’t have confession how is a persons sins forgiven? What are we judged on after we die? My friend (a protestant who believes in once saved always saved said we are not judged by our sins, we are judged on gaining or losing rewards. This I don’t understand. If this is true then how are we held accountable for our sins? Please don’t see these questions as a debate or argument. I am just confused and I am trying to learn the truth. Thank you for any help you can give me regarding these questions.

[Evangelical Outreach’s Response: Greetings in Jesus’ name. Let me answer your question like this: There is ONLY ONE WAY to get sins forgiven. This is at the point of a trusting and submitting faith in Jesus, when a person turns from his sins (Acts 20:21 cf. 20:26; 1 Thess. 1:9b; Prov. 28:13; etc.). That point in time is when he/she gets “born again.” (Catholics are NOT “born again” at infant baptism, like they think.) After conversion, if a Christian yields to the devil’s temptations, to be cleansed of those sins he MUST:

  1. confess them to God, 1 John 1:9; Psa. 32:5
  2. turn away from them with an attitude to SERVE God as the Prodigal did, Luke 15:18, 19 and
  3. forgive those who have sinned against him (Mt. 6:14,15).

(Catholics do NOT get their sins forgiven by confessing to the priest and saying three Our Fathers and three Hail Marys, even though they have been taught this.) A person will enter the kingdom of God or go to hell based on his spiritual condition at the end of his life. If person X has spiritual life in him, he goes to Paradise. If not he goes to eternal fire.

Sin can cause a Christian to lose his salvation by bringing him to spiritual death. A faithful Christian, known as an “overcomer” in the book of Revelation, will be rewarded based on his labors while saved which were done with the right motive.

Please carefully read Mt. 6:1-18 where Jesus teaches about this. Rewards will be lost if a good deed (like praying, fasting and almsgivings) is done to be honored now by man. Such a person will receive no reward. Heretics, like Charles Stanley, teach that Christians will see their rewards burn up in heaven because of adultery, theft, murder, etc. His message, though popular, is NOT the message of the Bible, so don’t be deceived.

PLEASE, for your own SOUL’S sake, go by the Bible. Catholicism has a FALSE salvation message. Don’t believe their message. Your soul hangs in the balance. GOD BLESS YOU. Remember 2 Tim. 3:15-17.]

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John Ankerberg, John Weldon Once Saved Always Saved Deception

Some Once Saved Always Saved teachers, like influential John Ankerberg and John Weldon, who openly teach Once Saved Always Saved, state it must be taught only to genuine children of God or a deception could result regarding one’s salvation:

Obviously, the doctrine of security must be taught only to genuine children of God lest those who wrongly think they are Christians become deceived as to their true status before God. (The Ankerberg Theological Research Institute News Magazine, Vol. 4, No. 6, June 1997, p. 6)

Several observations need to be made here:

(1) Once Saved Always Saved is openly taught everywhere! It often gushes forth over radio, TV, in literature and from pulpits with no apparent concern if those who wrongly think they are Christians are listening!

In fact, some salvation tracts actually have this message attached to the plan of salvation!

Even John Ankerberg and John Weldon, who recognize this danger and wrote about it, aren’t very guarded over who will read their message, for how can they know who will read their News Magazine?

(2) Since Once Saved Always Saved teachers say one can’t be sure who is truly regenerate and who isn’t, how could the Once Saved Always Saved people identify a genuine child of God from one who isn’t to teach Once Saved Always Saved to him?

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After Salvation, Is There Forgiveness For The Sexually Immoral, Drunk, Liar, Thief, Greedy, Swindler?

Dan Corner responds to an email received by Evangelical Outreach.

If after salvation, a person is sexually immoral, an idolater, drunkard, slanderer, swindler, thief, or greedy … where is there support in the New Testament that that person (someone previously saved) can receive forgiveness of those sins? This is an honest question. I have been struggling with this question. Especially taking into consideration I Corinthians 6:9-11 and Hebrews 6:4-6 and 10:26-31. I would appreciate an answer. Thank you.

[Response: Greetings in Jesus’ name. If a Christian turns to immorality such as sexual sin, he must get forgiven or he’ll go to hell. This means he must confess his sin to God, turn from that wickedness and draw near to God with a willingness to serve him. Please ponder 1 John 1:9; Lk. 15:18,19; Prov. 28:13; Psa. 51 and 2 Cor. 7:10. Hebrews 6 and 10 are referring to people who committed eternal sin to return to the synagogues. That is not like getting forgiven as David did or Peter. Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security. There is MUCH in it that can help you. GOD BLESS YOU.]

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Fruitless Christians Will Lose Salvation

Excerpted from The Believer’s Conditional Security by Dan Corner. Copyright 2000 by Daniel D. Corner

Fruitless Christians are in the greatest danger that exists in the universe. Unless they repent and bear fruit, they will be severed from Christ and will be thrown into the fire and burned, according to Jesus! What a shock it must be to some to hear statements like this, but Jesus taught this truth more than once!

In Jn. 15:2, Jesus taught about the Father:

He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he trims clean so that it will be even more fruitful (NIV).

Notice how the Father wants fruit. But what happens to people who do not remain in Christ, namely the branches that get cut off because they bear no fruit? Verse 6 gives the answer:

If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned (NIV).

Remember, Jesus taught in Jn. 15:1-10 that there are two types of Christians—those who do remain in him and bring forth fruit and those who do not remain (the fruitless) and end up in the fire! Though the moderate form of OSAS teaches that a real Christian has to remain, the Lord taught otherwise!

The KJV uses the word abide in this passage instead of remain. The reader should be aware that the Greek meaning of abide is remain:

abide, continue, dwell in, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for) X thine own.

Similarly, in Mt. 25:14-30 we read the Parable of the Talents. The servant of the Master who was entrusted with one talent never lost that one talent, but gained absolutely nothing. His Master returned from his journey and called him to account. The Master of that servant then said:

And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (v. 30, NIV).

Similarly, in Lk. 13:6-9, Jesus taught about a fruit tree that wasn’t bearing fruit. The owner of the vineyard went to it for three years without finding any fruit. It would be given just one more year to bear fruit—with special attention of digging around it and fertilizing—then it would be cut down (or killed), if it remained fruitless! Fruitlessness leads to termination of life.

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